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William Sullivan Seddon Gilbert

William Sullivan Seddon Gilbert

Male 1894 - 1959  (64 years)

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  • Name William Sullivan Seddon Gilbert 
    Birth 30 Oct 1894  Aston, Warwickshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3
    Gender Male 
    Residence 30 Oct 1894  Aston, Warwickshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Address:
    103 Whitehall Road 
    Residence 31 Mar 1901  Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Address:
    69 Alexandra Road, Canton 
    School From 3 Mar 1908 to 4 Aug 1910  Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    • The National Nautical School, Portishead
    Residence 2 Apr 1911  Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Address:
    The ship "Lorne", Queen's Dock 
    Occupation 2 Apr 1911  [6
    Mess room steward - merchant service 
    Employment Sep 1912  [7
    • Messroom steward on ss Hylas.
      ss Hylas was owned by R P Houston and Company (Houston Lines) of Liverpool and London. It was built in 1899, weighed 4,233 tons, and on 15 August 1917, en route from Archangel to Belfast, was torpedoed by submarine U.80 and sunk off Scotland - 10 miles east of Butt of Lewis (no loss of life).
    ss Hylas
    ss Hylas
    Watercolour by Hallet Robertson Bartlett, depicting the SS HYLAS anchored off Cremorne Point waiting for papers to go to England.

    The vessel has a grey hull with a red stripe in the centre and is flying the Red Ensign.
    A gangway has been lowered for a white launch that is approaching the vessel.
    Cremorne Point is in the background.
    On upper left corner, the Houston Line house flag.
    Handwritten text under the image reads: SS Hylas - Houston Line - off Cremorne Pt - waiting to get her papers to go to England.

    William S Gilbert is believed to have been employed as a Mess Room Steward on ss Hylas between 1912 and 1914.

    Image "borrowed" from the "Australian National Maritime Museum" © (www.anmm.gov.au)
    Employment Jan 1914  [5
    • Messroom steward on ss Hylas.
      ss Hylas was in the harbour of Buenos Aires at this time.
      Occupation unknown, assumed to be the same as in September 1912
    Residence 1 Nov 1915  Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    Address:
    98 Leopold Road, Kensington 
    • Thought to be a boarding house, run by Mrs L Mackie
    Employment to 1 Nov 1915  [9
    • Cook and baker on ss Magellan, ss MAGELLAN was owned by the "Pacific Steam Navigation Company".
      ss MAGELLAN was built in 1893 by Harland and Wolff at Belfast with a tonnage of 3590grt, a length of 360ft 7in, a beam of 43ft 2in and a service speed of 12 knots. She was one of four cargo ships built for the UK - west coast of South America services. With a cargo capacity of 234,000 cubic feet she also had accommodation for 12 Second Class passengers. On 25th July 1918 she was torpedoed and sunk in the Mediterranean Sea, 53 miles north east of Cape Serrat, Tunisia, with the loss of 1 life.
    Military Service 29 Nov 1915  [10
    • Kings Liverpool Regiment
    Military Service 10 Apr 1916  [11
    • BEF
    Military Discharge 15 Aug 1916  [11
    • BEF
    Residence 1918  Cheetham Hill, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [12
    Address:
    4 Halliwell Street 
    • Absent Voters List
      325328 Pte., 562 Hs. Empy. Cpy.
    Residence From 1918 to 1920  Cheetham Hill, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [12
    Address:
    4 Halliwell Street 
    • Register of Electors
    Military Discharge 10 Aug 1918  [10, 13
    • Kings Liverpool Regiment

      Name: Gilbert, William Seddon
      Regiment: Labour Corps
      Service Number: 325328
      Rank: Private
      Discharge Date: 10 Aug 1918
      Year of Birth: 1894
      Marital status: S
      Address: 4 Halliwell Street, Cheetham, Manchester
      Disabilities: GSW R thigh
    Residence 3 Mar 1923  Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [14
    Address:
    8 Victoria Place 
    Occupation 3 Mar 1923  [14
    Clerk 
    Residence From 1925 to 1931  Harpurhey, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [15, 16, 17
    Address:
    5 Lilley Street 
    Residence 1932  Moston, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [15, 18
    Address:
    7 Pentland Avenue 
    Residence 1933  Harpurhey, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [15
    Address:
    45 Cobden Street 
    Residence From 1939 to 1941  Harpurhey, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [19
    Address:
    45 Cobden Street 
    Residence 29 Sep 1939  Harpurhey, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Address:
    45 Cobden Street 
    Occupation 29 Sep 1939  [3
    Civil Service accounting 
    Military Service 29 Jun 1940  Collyhurst, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [20
    • Gilbert, William Seddon
      Event type: Military enlistment
      National Registration no.: NKJK 123/1
      No: 2.91
      Birth date: 30 Oct 1894 (30 Sep 1884 in one document)
      63rd County Of Lancaster (Collyhurst) Battalion, A Company Nominal Roll, 1940
      Address: 63 Gill Street
      Nationality: British
      Locality: Moston
      Next of kin: Mary A
      Relation: Wife
      Address: Same address
      Enrolled: 29 6 1940
    Residence 26 Feb 1943  Stretford, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [21
    Address:
    59 Derbyshire Lane 
    • Living with brother Jack (John Raymond) GILBERT and his wife Kitty (Kathleen, née HURLEY)
    Residence 12 Oct 1946  Droylsden, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [22
    Address:
    2 West Drive 
    Occupation 12 Oct 1946  [23
    Accountant (Public Trustee Office) 
    Residence 5 Jul 1947  Droylsden, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [24
    Address:
    2 West Drive 
    Occupation 5 Jul 1947  [24
    Accountant (Public Trustee Office) 
    Residence 1 Jul 1948  Stretford, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [25
    Address:
    62 Thornbury Road 
    Residence Jul 1949  Stockport, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [26
    Address:
    31 Athlone Avenue, Adswood 
    Residence 19 Oct 1952  Stockport, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [27
    Address:
    31 Athlone Avenue, Adswood 
    Residence Nov 1954  Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [26
    Address:
    39 Wyngate Road 
    Residence 4 Jun 1959  Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [28
    Address:
    39 Wyngate Road 
    Death 4 Jun 1959  Cheadle, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [28, 29, 30
    Cause: 1(a) Metastatic Carcinoma of brain (b) Carcinoma of Pharynx 
    Probate 8 Sep 1959  Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [30
    • GILBERT William Seddon of 29 Wyngate Road Cheadle Hulme Cheshire died 4 June 1959 at Barnes Hospital Cheadle Cheshire Probate Manchester 8 September to Dorothy Gilbert widow.
      Effects £196 13s. 4d.
    Person ID I3  Gilbert
    Last Modified 4 Nov 2023 

    Father William Henry Gilbert,   b. 7 Feb 1870, Lichfield, Staffordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 23 Jan 1951, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 80 years) 
    Mother Gertrude Ludford,   b. 1 Jul 1871, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 22 May 1904, Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 32 years) 
    Marriage 1 Nov 1890  West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F33  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Mary Alexandra Ward Allen,   b. 30 Nov 1903, Manchester, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1991, Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 87 years) 
    Marriage 3 Mar 1923  Hulme, Manchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [14, 31, 32
    Divorce 22 May 1947  [32
    Notes 
    • Witnesses: Alexander Stoddart and Elsie Walton
      Married at the Parish Church of Saint John Baptist, Hulme
      Marriage certificate gives Mary's age as 21 - birth registration would indicate 19; Mary's father declared as Alexander Allen, Goldsmith
    Children 
    +1. Joan Mary Gilbert,   b. 6 Oct 1923, Prestwich, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Feb 1988, Millom, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 64 years)
    +2. William Lawrence Gilbert,   b. 31 Aug 1926, Manchester North, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 20 Mar 2011, Carlisle, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 84 years)
    Family ID F34  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 17 May 2018 

    Family 2 Dorothy Blomeley,   b. 22 Apr 1914, Barton-upon-Irwell, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 10 Oct 2008, Stockport, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 94 years) 
    Marriage 5 Jul 1947  Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [24, 26, 33, 34
    GILBERT-BLOMELEY: Marriage notice
    GILBERT, William and Dorothy - wedding day
    Children 
    +1. W.S. Gilbert
    +2. C.S. Gilbert
     3. E.S. Gilbert
    Family ID F43  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 22 May 2022 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 30 Oct 1894 - Aston, Warwickshire, England Link to Google Earth
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    103 Whitehall Road - 30 Oct 1894 - Aston, Warwickshire, England
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    69 Alexandra Road, Canton - 31 Mar 1901 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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    Link to Google MapsSchool - From 3 Mar 1908 to 4 Aug 1910 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Link to Google Earth
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    The ship "Lorne", Queen's Dock - 2 Apr 1911 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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    98 Leopold Road, Kensington - 1 Nov 1915 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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    4 Halliwell Street - 1918 - Cheetham Hill, Manchester, England
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    4 Halliwell Street - From 1918 to 1920 - Cheetham Hill, Manchester, England
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    8 Victoria Place - 3 Mar 1923 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
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    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 3 Mar 1923 - Hulme, Manchester, England Link to Google Earth
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    5 Lilley Street - From 1925 to 1931 - Harpurhey, Manchester, England
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    7 Pentland Avenue - 1932 - Moston, Manchester, England
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    45 Cobden Street - 1933 - Harpurhey, Manchester, England
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    45 Cobden Street - From 1939 to 1941 - Harpurhey, Manchester, England
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    45 Cobden Street - 29 Sep 1939 - Harpurhey, Manchester, England
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    Link to Google MapsMilitary Service - 29 Jun 1940 - Collyhurst, Manchester, England Link to Google Earth
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    59 Derbyshire Lane - 26 Feb 1943 - Stretford, Manchester, England
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    2 West Drive - 12 Oct 1946 - Droylsden, Manchester, England
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    2 West Drive - 5 Jul 1947 - Droylsden, Manchester, England
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    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 5 Jul 1947 - Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, England Link to Google Earth
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    62 Thornbury Road - 1 Jul 1948 - Stretford, Manchester, England
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    31 Athlone Avenue, Adswood - Jul 1949 - Stockport, Cheshire, England
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    31 Athlone Avenue, Adswood - 19 Oct 1952 - Stockport, Cheshire, England
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    39 Wyngate Road - Nov 1954 - Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, England
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    39 Wyngate Road - 4 Jun 1959 - Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, England
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    Link to Google MapsDeath - Cause: 1(a) Metastatic Carcinoma of brain (b) Carcinoma of Pharynx - 4 Jun 1959 - Cheadle, Cheshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsProbate - 8 Sep 1959 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
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    Pin Legend  : Location       : City/Town       : District/Borough       : County/Shire       : State/Province       : Country       : Not Set

  • Photos
    Wales, Glamorgan, Cardiff: 69 Alexandra Road
    Somerset, Portishead: National Nautical School, Portishead (Postcard)
    Somerset, Portishead: Nautical School and Blacknore Lighthouse, Portishead (Postcard)
    The Kings (Liverpool Regiment) (Postcard)
    GILBERT, William
    GILBERT, William
    GILBERT, William and Dorothy
    GILBERT, William and Dorothy
    GILBERT, William
    Cheshire, Cheadle: Barnes Convalescent Hospital (Postcard)
    At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.
    At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.

    Documents
    GILBERT, William S: World War 1 Medal Index Card
    GILBERT, William S: World War 1 Medal Index Card
    World War 1 medal index card for William S GILBERT. He was a Private in the Liverpool Regiment and then the Labour Corps. He was awarded the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.

    UK, British Army World War I Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 (ancestry.co.uk)
    GILBERT, William S: Home Guard certificate
    GILBERT, William S: Home Guard certificate

  • Sources 
    1. [S34] General Register Office (England and Wales), Certificate (birth), Gilbert, William Sullivan Seddon; born 30 Oct 1894; 103 Whitehall Road, USD; Registered 10 Dec 1894; District: Aston, Birmingham; Sub-district: Deritend; No.: 331; copy dated 27 Jun 1959 (in possession of WSG).

    2. [S129] General Register Office (England and Wales), GRO Online Index (Births) - England and Wales, Gilbert, William Sullivan Seddon; Mother's Maiden Surname: Ludford; GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 274 (accessed 21 Sep 2017).

    3. [S237] 1939 Register (FindMyPast), Gilbert, William S; 30 Oct 1894; Borough: Manchester C.B.; County: Lancashire (accessed 20 Sep 2017).

    4. [S7] 1901 Census (FindMyPast) England, Wales and Scotland, (The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey), Gilbert, William S; Birth year: 1895; Birth town: Birmingham; Birth county: Warwickshire; Reg dist: Cardiff; Parish: Canton; County: Glamorganshire; Ref: RG13; Piece: 4986; Folio: 192; Page: 30 (accessed 10 Jul 2017).

    5. [S60] The National Nautical School, Portishead, Letter, dated 17 Mar 1921, relating to Ivy Gertrude Gilbert's search for her brothers; copy provided by Celia Bramley.

    6. [S8] 1911 Census (FindMyPast) England and Wales, (The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey), Gilbert, William; Birth year: 1895; Birth place: Warwickshire Birmingham; Reg Dist: Toxteth Park; Parish: Toxteth Park; County: Lancashire; Ref: RG14PN22227 RG78PN1314 RD454 SD1 ED18 SN14 (accessed 21 Sep 2017).

    7. [S61] Houston Shipping Line, Liverpool, Letter, dated 22 Apr 1921, relating to Ivy Gertrude Gilbert's search for her brothers; copy provided by Celia Bramley.

    8. [S100] Mrs Mackie, 98 Leopold Road, Liverpool, Letter, dated 9 Jun 1921, relating to Ivy Gertrude Gilbert's search for her brothers; copy provided by Celia Bramley.

    9. [S99] The Registrar General of Shipping and Seamen, London, Letter, dated 30 May 1921, relating to Ivy Gertrude Gilbert's search for her brothers; copy provided by Celia Bramley.

    10. [S82] Document, personal, Army Form E 511 - Discharge Certificate of a soldier of the Territorial Force (in possession of WSG).

    11. [S82] Document, personal, Army Form B 2067 - Character Certificate (in possession of WSG).

    12. [S439] Greater Manchester Electoral Registers 1820-1940 (FindMyPast), Gilbert, William Seddon; 1918; Location: Exchange; Address: Halliwell Street (accessed 27 Oct 2023).

    13. [S389] UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923 (Fold3 subscription required) (Ancestry), Gilbert, William Seddon; Birth year: 1894; Rank: Private; Service number: 325328 (accessed 21 Apr 2021).

    14. [S37] General Register Office (England and Wales), Certificate (marriage), Gilbert, William Seddon - Allen, Mary Alexandra Ward; married 3 Mar 1923; The Parish Church of St. John Baptist, Hulme, Manchester; Registration District: Chorlton; No: 330; copy dated 8 Apr 2005 (in possession of WSG).

    15. [S114] William Lawrence Gilbert (I91) (Half brother), Conversation (2006).

    16. [S439] Greater Manchester Electoral Registers 1820-1940 (FindMyPast), Gilbert, William Seddon; 1925; Location: Platting; Address: Lilley Street (accessed 27 Oct 2023).

    17. [S440] Greater Manchester Rate Books (FindMyPast), Gilbert, William Seddon; 1926; Address: 5, Lilley Street; Ward: Manchester (Accessed 27 Oct 2023).

    18. [S439] Greater Manchester Electoral Registers 1820-1940 (FindMyPast), Gilbert, William Seddon; 1932; Location: Manchester; Address: Pentland Avenue (accessed 27 Oct 2023).

    19. [S440] Greater Manchester Rate Books (FindMyPast), Gilbert, William Seddon; 1939; Address: 45, Cobden Street; Ward: Manchester (Accessed 27 Oct 2023).

    20. [S386] Lancashire, England, World War II Home Guard Records, 1940-1945 (Ancestry), Gilbert, William Seddon; Birth date: 30 Oct 1894; Residence place: Moston, Lancashire (accessed 27 Mar 2021).

    21. [S82] Document, personal, City of Manchester - Certificate to Fire Guard Supplementary Instructor (in possession of WSG).

    22. [S82] Document, personal, Address and date written in book "Mathematical Tables and Formulae" (in possession of WSG).

    23. [S82] Document, personal, Office address written in book "Mathematical Tables and Formulae" (in possession of WSG).

    24. [S37] General Register Office (England and Wales), Certificate (marriage), Gilbert, William Seddon - Blomeley, Dorothy; married 5 Jul 1947; Methodist Church, Cheadle Hulme, Cheadle, Cheshire; Registration District: North East Cheshire; No: 44; copy dated 5 Jul 1947 (in possession of WSG).

    25. [S34] General Register Office (England and Wales), Certificate (birth), Gilbert, Warren Sandham; born 1 Jul 1948; Stretford Memorial Hospital, UD; Registered 14 Jul 1948, District Barton, Sub-district Stretford; No.: 47; copy dated 14 Jul 1948 (son) (in possession of WSG).

    26. [S309] Dorothy Gilbert (née Blomeley) (I4) (Mother), Conversations (2004, 2005).

    27. [S33] Certificate (baptism), Gilbert, Elizabeth Susan; 19 Oct 1952; Cheadle Hulme Methodist Church (in possession of WSG).

    28. [S35] General Register Office (England and Wales), Certificate (death), Gilbert, William Seddon; died 4 Jun 1959; Barnes Hospital, Cheadle, Cheshire; Registered 5 Jun 1959; District North East Cheshire; Sub-district Cheadle; No.: 1; copy dated 1 Jul 1959 (in possession of WSG).

    29. [S263] General Register Office (England and Wales), UK BMD (FindMyPast) Death index, Gilbert, William S; 1959; North East Cheshire, Cheshire; Age: 64; J Quarter; Volume: 10A; Page: 379 (accessed 21 Sep 2017).

    30. [S221] Find a Will (Gov.uk), Gilbert, William Seddon; 1959 (accessed 21 Sep 2017).

    31. [S262] General Register Office (England and Wales), UK BMD (FindMyPast) Marriage index, Gilbert, William S - Allen, Mary A W; 1923; Chorlton, Lancashire; M Quarter; Volume: 8C; Page: 1161 (accessed 17 May 2018).

    32. [S36] Certificate (divorce), Gilbert, William Seddon Gilbert - Gilbert, Mary Alexandra Ward; married 3 March 1923; divorced 22 May 1947; Manchester (in possession of WSG).

    33. [S262] General Register Office (England and Wales), UK BMD (FindMyPast) Marriage index, Gilbert, William S - Blomeley, Dorothy; 1947; North East Cheshire, Cheshire; S Quarter; Volume: 10A; Page: 1123 (accessed 14 Apr 2020).

    34. [S230] British Newspapers (FindMyPast), Gilbert-Blomeley; Marriage; Manchester Evening News, Monday 7 July 1947, p7, col 3 (accessed 17 Feb 2019).